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		<title>By: Mary Gonzalez</title>
		<link>http://kevnull.com/2004/02/ring-ring-ring.html/comment-page-1#comment-181248</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Gonzalez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I just got an engagement ring from my fiancee, it&#039;s a small diamond but what counts most to me is us being together.  Shall I mention that he has scheduled a trip to Madrid, Spain, well, that is what I am most pleased about the whole thing.  I love him dearly, ring or no ring.  A ring is a symbol of love, and it doesn&#039;t matter to me who comments about the small diamond on my engagement ring, I&#039;ll just throw in the Spain trip. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I just got an engagement ring from my fiancee, it&#8217;s a small diamond but what counts most to me is us being together.  Shall I mention that he has scheduled a trip to Madrid, Spain, well, that is what I am most pleased about the whole thing.  I love him dearly, ring or no ring.  A ring is a symbol of love, and it doesn&#8217;t matter to me who comments about the small diamond on my engagement ring, I&#8217;ll just throw in the Spain trip. <img src='http://kevnull.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://kevnull.com/2004/02/ring-ring-ring.html/comment-page-1#comment-4518</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 13:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anywone want to sell their &quot;iron ring&quot; ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anywone want to sell their &#8220;iron ring&#8221; ?</p>
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		<title>By: N</title>
		<link>http://kevnull.com/2004/02/ring-ring-ring.html/comment-page-1#comment-234</link>
		<dc:creator>N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heheh ...  I still have to watch LotR:TTT!  (And RotK!)  But I&#039;m looking forward to it, because the scenery is breathtaking.

As for the engagement right - I guess the carats is an easy measurement of how well off the man is (2-month rule?), but there are other factors that aren&#039;t as apparent: the quality of the diamond (or other gem), and the size of her finger!  E.g., my very well-to-do friend bought his wife a 0.70 carat ring, but it is virtually flawless.  But, if it were any bigger, it would look gawdy on her tiny hand.  So ... can&#039;t really judge it by its size.

Iron Ring - some Americans?  Really??  I thought it was still restricted to Canadian graduands.  My female &#039;geer friends still wear theirs, as I do mine.  Call it reward for suffering through all those years. :)  Two of them that got married kept their IRs on at the wedding.

You also forgot ... ringtones. :)  Ring ring!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heheh &#8230;  I still have to watch LotR:TTT!  (And RotK!)  But I&#8217;m looking forward to it, because the scenery is breathtaking.</p>
<p>As for the engagement right &#8211; I guess the carats is an easy measurement of how well off the man is (2-month rule?), but there are other factors that aren&#8217;t as apparent: the quality of the diamond (or other gem), and the size of her finger!  E.g., my very well-to-do friend bought his wife a 0.70 carat ring, but it is virtually flawless.  But, if it were any bigger, it would look gawdy on her tiny hand.  So &#8230; can&#8217;t really judge it by its size.</p>
<p>Iron Ring &#8211; some Americans?  Really??  I thought it was still restricted to Canadian graduands.  My female &#8216;geer friends still wear theirs, as I do mine.  Call it reward for suffering through all those years. <img src='http://kevnull.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Two of them that got married kept their IRs on at the wedding.</p>
<p>You also forgot &#8230; ringtones. <img src='http://kevnull.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Ring ring!</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://kevnull.com/2004/02/ring-ring-ring.html/comment-page-1#comment-235</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t agree with the 2-month rule for engagement rings, but then I&#039;m not sure how I feel about engagement rings in particular.  I imagine they came about to &quot;claim your woman&quot; in the days when dowry and such were popular.  In any case, if it were based solely on salary, would Steve Jobs buy just a $0.17 ring, then?

Apparently, some school out in Rhode Island also has a similar iron ring tradition.  Still, I say that Canadians started it.

And you&#039;re not getting away with such a tiny side-mention of your new tablet PC.  Still waiting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree with the 2-month rule for engagement rings, but then I&#8217;m not sure how I feel about engagement rings in particular.  I imagine they came about to &#8220;claim your woman&#8221; in the days when dowry and such were popular.  In any case, if it were based solely on salary, would Steve Jobs buy just a $0.17 ring, then?</p>
<p>Apparently, some school out in Rhode Island also has a similar iron ring tradition.  Still, I say that Canadians started it.</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re not getting away with such a tiny side-mention of your new tablet PC.  Still waiting.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://kevnull.com/2004/02/ring-ring-ring.html/comment-page-1#comment-236</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually engagement rings are a pure marketing driven product that came about in the mid to late 19th century if memory recalls.

Basically it the diamond industry pulled off this amazing marketing job of making everyone pay super inflated prices for a product that really is only rare because the company has a monopoly on the supply.

Diamond prices are inflated in an even more ridiculous way than Ticketmaster prices. 

Well - enough ranting. Having said all that - yes I did buy the one I love a shiny, sparkly ring and have no regrets about doing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually engagement rings are a pure marketing driven product that came about in the mid to late 19th century if memory recalls.</p>
<p>Basically it the diamond industry pulled off this amazing marketing job of making everyone pay super inflated prices for a product that really is only rare because the company has a monopoly on the supply.</p>
<p>Diamond prices are inflated in an even more ridiculous way than Ticketmaster prices. </p>
<p>Well &#8211; enough ranting. Having said all that &#8211; yes I did buy the one I love a shiny, sparkly ring and have no regrets about doing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I think Diamond ring has become more of an expectation than a tradition.  I&#039;m probably one to question this but when it comes down to it, I&#039;ll probably just bite my lips and buy the stupid ring.  If you start your marriage without what she wants, you will have the rest of your life to hear her complain.  I think the price of the ring is worth the peace and quiet.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think Diamond ring has become more of an expectation than a tradition.  I&#8217;m probably one to question this but when it comes down to it, I&#8217;ll probably just bite my lips and buy the stupid ring.  If you start your marriage without what she wants, you will have the rest of your life to hear her complain.  I think the price of the ring is worth the peace and quiet.  <img src='http://kevnull.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
		<link>http://kevnull.com/2004/02/ring-ring-ring.html/comment-page-1#comment-238</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not fair to say that! Of course, it is nice to have the &quot;ring&quot;. I know some girls, including myself, would rather use that money on something else like the down payment of a house. I guess it all comes down to how much money the couple/man has. I am not saying I will say &quot;NO&quot; if my boyfriend proposes to me with the &quot;ring&quot;, but I believe a couple should work as a team to make their lives better and happy. In the end, I guess it really depends on what the priority of the &quot;ring&quot; is to the couple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not fair to say that! Of course, it is nice to have the &#8220;ring&#8221;. I know some girls, including myself, would rather use that money on something else like the down payment of a house. I guess it all comes down to how much money the couple/man has. I am not saying I will say &#8220;NO&#8221; if my boyfriend proposes to me with the &#8220;ring&#8221;, but I believe a couple should work as a team to make their lives better and happy. In the end, I guess it really depends on what the priority of the &#8220;ring&#8221; is to the couple.</p>
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		<title>By: N</title>
		<link>http://kevnull.com/2004/02/ring-ring-ring.html/comment-page-1#comment-239</link>
		<dc:creator>N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll have to agree with Kathryn.  There are better places to spend that kind of money.  (Although, wow, Kathryn, what ring was going to be a down-payment??)  I would be uneasy wearing a ring that cost that much, anyway.

It is tradition, but it doesn&#039;t have to be expensive.  I&#039;d be happy enough just having a ring (for the symbolic, not materialistic aspect).  My friends told me how their buddy bought a 300.00AUD engagement ring for his girl.  (They broke up afterward, but I don&#039;t know that that had anything to do with the ring.)

Fellows, let me introduce you to ... Moissanite.  All the terrific qualities of a diamond (even sparklier) at one-tenth the cost. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have to agree with Kathryn.  There are better places to spend that kind of money.  (Although, wow, Kathryn, what ring was going to be a down-payment??)  I would be uneasy wearing a ring that cost that much, anyway.</p>
<p>It is tradition, but it doesn&#8217;t have to be expensive.  I&#8217;d be happy enough just having a ring (for the symbolic, not materialistic aspect).  My friends told me how their buddy bought a 300.00AUD engagement ring for his girl.  (They broke up afterward, but I don&#8217;t know that that had anything to do with the ring.)</p>
<p>Fellows, let me introduce you to &#8230; Moissanite.  All the terrific qualities of a diamond (even sparklier) at one-tenth the cost. <img src='http://kevnull.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JWan</title>
		<link>http://kevnull.com/2004/02/ring-ring-ring.html/comment-page-1#comment-240</link>
		<dc:creator>JWan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>w.r.t. being judged by the ring.  That happens all the time.  That being said, do you really care what those people think?  All the friends that really matter would judge you more by the wonderful gifts that you gave them by celebrating your engagement.  &quot;Wow Kevin, congratulations!  I can&#039;t believe you got engaged.  Thanks for the Plasma TV.  You must be doing really well.&quot;  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>w.r.t. being judged by the ring.  That happens all the time.  That being said, do you really care what those people think?  All the friends that really matter would judge you more by the wonderful gifts that you gave them by celebrating your engagement.  &#8220;Wow Kevin, congratulations!  I can&#8217;t believe you got engaged.  Thanks for the Plasma TV.  You must be doing really well.&#8221;  <img src='http://kevnull.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>N: I guess I should say going towards to down-payment. That was a true story from my friends. The couple bought a condo before the girl got her enagement ring. She was happy getting the ring, but she wished that he would put the money toward their down-payment instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>N: I guess I should say going towards to down-payment. That was a true story from my friends. The couple bought a condo before the girl got her enagement ring. She was happy getting the ring, but she wished that he would put the money toward their down-payment instead.</p>
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